dumbeldore is not dead!!!

[Jack Chance]

hehe...well this is funny.  Lavy, do you remember us speaking of trying to get this THREAD TO BECOME DEAD???!!

I think this is funny.  I also think that whomever started this one should lock it.  And about the part where Dumbledore wasnt in the frame, that is not true.  When he died, Harry went in the office, and I remember reading that Harry saw Dumbledore's painting already there, and Dumbledore's figure was "sleeping".  Hmm...I dunno.  Maybe when Harry will need help again, maybe he will ask the painting.  But, like Kreature's Mistress (Sirius's Mum), maybe Dumbledore will end up like a fool...  There's something to think about...

[jon weasley]

whoa

[mamabiscuit]

i don't think he's dead can't be he's sooooooooo powerful he can't just die! not fair

[Harrry Potter]

No, he's not dead... I sense it! He's to powerful to die. Sounds stupid but I think that his Pheonix gave him his power,  and...

[paavni123]

i think he's dead...i mena they did bury him..but still....if voldemort dint die yet...i dunt reallly think dumbledore did...i mean..i think tht is the seventh part he will come back again....probably...he realy dint die..it may be  a plan....probably only mcgonagall knows...

[The Marauders]

they all die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Witches Rule]

DDDDDUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[natato]

he IS dead

[harrypotterfan:)]

dumbledore is dead...........i cant believe jk rowling can plan hiz death
:'(

[Naurm]

Rowling clarified that "Dumbledore is definitely dead", when asked by Salman Rushdie and others at Radio City Music Hall in New York City. Rowling answered the same question three times, each time with increasing conviction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Deathly_Hallows#Known_plot_details

now that's ambiguous enough that somehow some strange way he'll still be able to help Harry. Who knows, every book has a new suprise and we know JK won't dissappoint. I just hope that none of the trio die..that would be devastating.

[ChoChangHP118]

In an interview though, daniel said he saw rowling walk into the studio looking troubled so he asked her what was wrong and she said dumbledore was giving her some trouble.......so i think he might come back to life!
No one will know until July 21 though!!

[harrypotterfan:)]

he cannot be dead i don't think that's really true even after reading the 6th book several times.....

[natato]

NOT BY ME:

clue 1) Harry and Dumbledore are up on the top of the tower underneath the Dark Mark. Harry is wearing his invisibility cloak, Dumbledore ordered him to put it on before they mounted their brooms to ride to the top of the tower. Harry hears footsteps and looks around, but Dumbledore orders him with a gesture to retreat. Harry draws his wand and backs away:
The door burst open and somebody erupted through it and shouted, "Expelliarmus!" Harry's body became instantly rigid and immobile, and he felt himself fall back against the tower wall, propped like an unsteady statue, unable to move or speak.
It's interesting to note that things are happening so fast, even Harry is momentarily confused:
He could not understand how it happened -- Expelliarmus was not a Freezing Charm -- Then, by the light of the Mark, he saw Dumbledore's wand flying in an arc over the edge of the ramparts and understood... Dumbledore had wordlessly immobilzed Harry, and the second he had taken to perform this spell had cost him the chance of defending himself.
hmm...
Why did Dumbledore freeze Harry? Harry was already invisible to their attackers and in no danger.
The only explanation could be that Dumbledore already knew, had already planned, that he would die this night (or appear to die), and not only did he not want Harry to become involved and possibly be injured himself, he needed Harry 2 be a witness, to be able to tell everyone else what happened.
Dumbledore might have also promised Snape that he would make sure that Harry would not be able to interfere, knowing how Harry feels about Snape and what Snape was about to have to do.


2) Fawkes doesn't try to save Dumbledore
We've seen Fawkes come in at the last moment and save Harry's life in Chamber of Secrets:
As Harry trembled, ready to close his eyes if it turned, he saw what had distracted the snake. Fawkes was soaring around its head, and the basilisk was snapping furiously at him with fangs long and thin as sabers -- Fawkes dived. His long golden beak sunk out of sight and a sudden shower of dark blood spattered the floor. (CoS pg 318/234)
And he also saved Dumbledore in Order of the Phoenix:
... one more jet of green light had flown at Dumbledore from Voldemort's wand and the snake had struck -- Fawkes swooped down in front of Dumbledore, opened his beak wide, and swallowed the jet of green light whole. He burst into flame and fell to the floor, small, wrinkled and flightless.
We know Fawkes was nearby the tower, as he shows up after Dumbledore's "death". So, why didn't Fawkes come to save Dumbledore this time?
I think the fact that he didn't makes it possible to believe that Dumbledore didn't want his life to be saved, and this supports the theory that it was Dumbledore's plan all along to "die" up on that tower that night.

3) did you not notice that in the hbp, when dumbledore is "killied" the avada kedavra curse is not as it has been explained in past incedents in the book, why should it be any different this time???
Every other time we've seen the Avada Kedavra performed, the victim simply falls over dead:
"He was screaming so loudly that he never heard the words the thing in the chair spoke as it raised a wand. There was a flash of green light, a rushing sound, and Frank Bryce crumbled. He was dead before he hit the floor."
and
"From high above his head, he heard a high, cold voice say, "Kill the spare." A swishing noise and a second voice, which screeched the words to the night: "Avada Kedavra!" A blast of green light blazed through Harry's eyelids, and he heard something heavy fall to ground beside him. Cedric was lying spread-eagled on the ground beside him. He was dead."
in Half-Blood Prince, when Snape curses Dumbledore with the same spell, Dumbledore violently flies up and away from the tower:
"Snape raised his wand and pointed it directly at Dumbledore. "Avada Kedavra!" A jet of green light shot from the end of Snape's wand and hit Dumbledore squarely in the chest. Harry's scream of horror never left him; silently he was forced to watch as Dumbledore was blasted into the air. For a split second, he seemed to hang suspended beneath the shining skull, and then he slowly fell backward, like a great rag doll, over the battlements and out of sight." what is goin on there!?
Why would this application of the Avada Kedavra be so different from every other time we've seen it?
hmm..maybe because even though those were the words Snape said, he didn't perform the killing curse at all. Remember all the importance this book gave to "nonverbal" spells? Perhaps Snape said Avada Kedavra, but the curse he was really thinking, the nonverbal one, was a different curse, one that only made it appear that Dumbledore was dead.
Even the title of the chapter this all takes place in is suspicous, "The Lightning-Struck Tower". Even though this is the name of the ominous tarot card that Trelawney was worried about, is it possible that J.K. is hinting here that the spell was not Avada Kedavra, just some green lightning sparks for show??

5) well j.k. has put a lot of hinting onto the idea of not bein able to do unforgivable curses unless u really "mean" it, think back,
In Goblet of Fire, the fake Mad Eye Moody tells his DADA class:
"Avada Kedavra's a curse that needs a powerful bit of magic behind it -- you could all get your wands out now and point them at me and say the words, and I doubt I'd get so much as a nosebleed."
and
Hatred rose in Harry such that he had never known before. He flung himself out from behind the fountain and bellowed "Crucio!" Bellatrix screamed. The spell had knocked her off her feet, but she did not writhe or shriek with pain as Neville had -- she was already on her feet again ... "Never used an Unforgivable Curse before, have you, boy?" she yelled. "You need to mean them, Potter! You need to really want to cause pain -- to enjoy it ..."
If Snape was really working on Dumbledore's orders to make it look to the world as if Snape had killed him, even if he had used the real Avada Kedavra, if he had not really meant it, if he really didn't want to kill Dumbledore, then isn't possible that the curse didn't kill Dumbledore, but only injured him badly? aha! lol.

9) As part of the funeral service, a fire ignites around the body of Dumbledore, and when it subsides, his body is encased in a white marble tomb.
Again, we don't see the body, either before or after the fire.
But more importantly, no one lights the fire, it just happens on its own. A body bursting into flame on its own. That sound like anyone we know? We've seen Fawkes do that several times now in the course of the Harry Potter books, and you know what happens to Fawkes after every time it does.
in case we didn't get the allusions to a phoenix, J.K. reminds us just in case:
White smoke spiraled into the air and made strange shapes: Harry thought, for one heart-stopping moment, that he saw a phoenix fly joyfully into the blue, but next second the fire had vanished. (theory not written by me)

[harrypotterfan:)]

For clue 3 i think it's just because Dumbledore is stronger than Cedric or Frank Bryce ::) :-\

For clue 9 I think maybe they want to fake his death or something so Dumbledore could continue the search for horuxes :-X I don't know but his painting was in his office, another clue that he might have died :( :'(

[ChoChangHP118]

i think dumbledore died...

but i think that he'll come back at the last second and either kill voldy or save harry

or something like that