Snape?!

harrypotterfan:) · July 6, 2007, 06:52:31 AM

ooh really interesting conversation....LOL

Ginny Weasly · July 6, 2007, 11:55:55 AM

Quote from: ronweazley122 on July 6, 2007, 05:07:37 AM
yes...he wanted him to keep his cover at all costs...of course, now I'm curious, what happens if you break an unbreakable vow,if its physically possible??I hope j.k. mentions that...

Didn't it say in book 6 that anyone who breaks an unbreakable vow dies?

ronweazley122 · July 6, 2007, 12:46:18 PM

you know, i don't really recall...I'll have to look that up, lol...and I call myself a hXc hp fan??lmao....

uNoPoh · July 6, 2007, 03:57:05 PM

Yes, it's written in the scene where Ron tells Harry that Fred and George tried to make him do an unbreakable vow. Harry asked Ron what would happen if you break it and Ron said: You'll die.

So I also think that Dumbledore knew about the vow and made Snape kill him, so he would not loose his cover.

ronweazley122 · July 6, 2007, 10:12:07 PM

right, or die...thanks...I would have looked back, but well, I'm lazy sometimes. :P

ChoChangHP118 · July 8, 2007, 10:47:10 AM

Quote from: uNoPoh on July 6, 2007, 03:57:05 PM
Yes, it's written in the scene where Ron tells Harry that Fred and George tried to make him do an unbreakable vow. Harry asked Ron what would happen if you break it and Ron said: You'll die.

So I also think that Dumbledore knew about the vow and made Snape kill him, so he would not loose his cover.

i remembered that part! haha i laughed at what fred and george tried to do! lol...

Minimy · July 9, 2007, 11:16:22 PM

hmm... all that about the unbreakable vow, isn't something like Snape can't tell anyone about it?... wouldn't kill him?
and wether Snape is good or bad I have no idea... some tells me that he is EVIL, but I would like him to be one Harry can trust, but he doesn't really seem like that... and he did kill Dumbledore... but then again there are some rumors that Dumbledore told him to....

uNoPoh · July 9, 2007, 11:26:39 PM

It would only kill him, if he had promised not to tell anybody.
And that didn't happen, as far as I know.

ronweazley122 · July 10, 2007, 11:14:49 AM

and that brings up other questions...mainly one...was killing dumbledore the mission snape promised to help him with? I think, most likely it was...but it still makes me wonder.

Minimy · July 11, 2007, 04:48:11 AM

hmmm ??? I am really lost here... I have no idea about Snaps mission for Dumbledore, but is could be to kill him.. even though it seems kind of weird to ask to be killed (and if Dumbledore did ask/demand for Snape to kill him, then why didn't he tell Harry about it so that he knew he could trust that Snape was one of the good, and not a real death eater?) it is Dumbledore and he comes of weird lots of times, but it always makes sense later on.... hm....

uNoPoh · July 11, 2007, 04:34:03 PM

As far as I understood this part, Snape promised to help Draco. This included doing the job for him if he fails. It is never explicitly written, but I think the job was to kill Dumbledore - at least this makes the most sense, when I remember the conversation between Draco and Dumbledore on the tower.

So I think Snape told Dumbledore about it and Dumbledore had to decide what is more important. Snape loosing his cover and Draco dies, or Dumbledore sacrifices himself. After all, he had passed all his knowledge about the Horcruxes and Voldemort to Harry. And the prophecy seems to be clear about the fact, that Harry has to face Voldemort himself.

Why don't tell Harry? He would have reacted immediately - (try to kill?) Draco and Snape or something stupid, so Snape would loose his cover.

ronweazley122 · July 12, 2007, 11:28:03 AM

right...it was the most logical route, and I believe that is the case....and he must have begged snape TO kill him...right? he didn't want either snape or draco to die.but...why, on earth, would he allow himself to be killed in front of harry? I mean, did he really think he could handle that? or was he just still that out of it from the potion?

uNoPoh · July 12, 2007, 04:56:44 PM

I don't know, how the magic worked, that Harrys mother was doing, when she died and generated the shield for Harry.
But a far fetched theory could be, that dumbledore did this to Harry too, so the next time, Voldemort tries to kill Harry the spell once again backfires and since there are no more horcruxes left at that point - Voldemort dies.
But that sound not very likely to me...

Minimy · July 13, 2007, 12:56:57 AM

The shield Harry got when his mother died to keep him alive (the shield of love or whatever), only works until he is adult, then it has no effect. I don't think Dumbledore could give him that kind of protectsion, cuz they are not relatives... but i hope there was some higher point in Dumbledore dying than to save Draco from death...

Ginny Weasly · July 13, 2007, 01:01:47 AM

Quote from: Minimy on July 13, 2007, 12:56:57 AM
The shield Harry got when his mother died to keep him alive (the shield of love or whatever), only works until he is adult, then it has no effect.

Actually, this shield would have worked his whole life if Voldemort hadn't used Harry's blood to return to a body in the fourth book.

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