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#1
I personally loved the character Snape most of all.
For me, he is by far the most interesting role in the whole books. All the time through book 7 I thought - "but that doesen't make sense - I thought Snape was on the orders side.." brilliant.

And not to forget Alan Rickman as Snape in the movies is just brilliant...
#2
Just a few scenes that I didn't understand:

1) Where got Neville the sword of Godric Gryffindor, or more precisely how got the sorting hat hold of the sword, after the goblin had taken it - or have I missed something?

2) What exactly did Harrys wand when it destroyed voldemorts - through the most part of the boo I thought Dumbledore made it in some kind of spiritual force - so that although he is dead, he could affect the world. But then came the questioning of Ollivander - and all this stuff about the elder wand - I understood this I think but not why Harrys wand destroyed voldemorts (Lucius')
Could have been that I missed some details, because english is not my mother tongue.

3) And this is an old one... where did voldemort got his wand back, after the killing curse on harry backfired (in the first book)
#3
Quote from: bubububu on July 27, 2007, 04:43:52 PM

All the while I knew that Snape is good because DDore trusts him(JKR wont make ddore wrong) and that the death was a planned one. Otherwise everything was a surprise.

What do ya say people?

Reading HP7 again,
Harry here.

Yeah, JKR would never make ddore wrong - just as wrong as he was tempted trying the Marvolo-ring on, that cursed him.
Or never wrong like the way he let his little sister die, or at least neglecting her?
But nevertheless it makes the character more "real", more complex, seeing the darker sides of Dumbledore - that was quite interesting.

#4
Book 7 Discussion / Re: SPOILER - 7th book poll
July 27, 2007, 08:41:33 PM
Is there a reason, why you omitted Snape?
#5
Snape was on the good side - I strongly supposed that.
And I'm very glad to know the reason, Dumbledore trustet him. And it really was, that Snape was in Love with Lily ... well well well that all makes sense.

So Harry had not to kill anybody in the end, not even Voldemort - I saw this coming, but to me its just a bit .. Well I don't know, what do you think - they duell Death eaters through and through in this book, and each Death eater tries to kill and all they do ist stunn and stupefy and things like that...
I hoped for a little more violence from the good side, but after all it started as a book for children and so thats OK i guess.

Well anyway was very thrilled about the unpredictable turns in the story. And everything fitting with the hints in the previous books - I really enjoyed reading.

Only the epilog... that were just too many names on too few pages.
#6
It just became unbearable - all the morons posting around things they think they know. Who dies, who kills whom....

At least I'm looking forward to some more serious discussions when the book is out and everyone has read it.
#7
Harry Potter Books / Re: the cave
July 16, 2007, 07:19:03 PM
To the question, how can dumbledore feel responsible for the death of his parents.
Just a theory:
What if Snape had not overheard just a part of the prophecy, but ran to voldemort and told him just the part, he has heard.
Maybe the order was so desperate that they agreed to feed Voldemort with this part of the prophecy. And the part "mark him as equal" did not state, that he was going to kill his parents and trying on the equal.
Maybe they all agreed, that in order to create the ultimate weapon against voldemort (Harry, or Neville - at that point), they would take the risk and let the information pass.

I don't know, its just a theory. But that could explain why Dumbledore could feel responsible. He didn't realize that Harrys parents would die, when he passed the information on.

When Snape really only "overheard" the prophecy, there would be a very small "time window", because the barmen interrupted Dumbledore and the professor when he caught snape more or less immediately. And surely the prophecy was not given in two parts - one before the interruption, and one after. So to me it seems, the chances are very low, that snape only overheard a part.
#8
On the other hand, it could be possible, that voldemort thought: Well I'll first deal with the wizards and then I kill the muggle, but unfortuantely for him he didn't come that far.

What bothers me also is, how Voldemort came into the possession of his wand, once again? I mean, he tried to kill harry and he survived and as far as I know no Death eater was at the scene with him. So who grabbed his wand and gave it back to him?

Well anyway - but its a very interesting theory, that aunt Petunia might know more about the dying of Harrys parents.
#9
Harry Potter Books / Re: the cave
July 12, 2007, 05:04:28 PM
I think Dumbledore in delirium said something like: "No, don't kill them, kill me instead. "
Personally I think he was forced to recall or once again witness the killing of Harrys parents.
I think it is possible that he feels responsible for their death, since he permitted to be overheard listening to the prophecy.

Well, I really don't know...
#10
Harry Potter Books / Re: Snape?!
July 12, 2007, 04:56:44 PM
I don't know, how the magic worked, that Harrys mother was doing, when she died and generated the shield for Harry.
But a far fetched theory could be, that dumbledore did this to Harry too, so the next time, Voldemort tries to kill Harry the spell once again backfires and since there are no more horcruxes left at that point - Voldemort dies.
But that sound not very likely to me...
#11
Harry Potter Books / Re: Snape?!
July 11, 2007, 04:34:03 PM
As far as I understood this part, Snape promised to help Draco. This included doing the job for him if he fails. It is never explicitly written, but I think the job was to kill Dumbledore - at least this makes the most sense, when I remember the conversation between Draco and Dumbledore on the tower.

So I think Snape told Dumbledore about it and Dumbledore had to decide what is more important. Snape loosing his cover and Draco dies, or Dumbledore sacrifices himself. After all, he had passed all his knowledge about the Horcruxes and Voldemort to Harry. And the prophecy seems to be clear about the fact, that Harry has to face Voldemort himself.

Why don't tell Harry? He would have reacted immediately - (try to kill?) Draco and Snape or something stupid, so Snape would loose his cover.
#12
Harry Potter Books / Re: Snape?!
July 9, 2007, 11:26:39 PM
It would only kill him, if he had promised not to tell anybody.
And that didn't happen, as far as I know.
#13
Harry Potter Books / Re: Snape?!
July 6, 2007, 03:57:05 PM
Yes, it's written in the scene where Ron tells Harry that Fred and George tried to make him do an unbreakable vow. Harry asked Ron what would happen if you break it and Ron said: You'll die.

So I also think that Dumbledore knew about the vow and made Snape kill him, so he would not loose his cover.
#14
I think he is already back in book 6 - as a picture in the headmasters office.
Only problem is, I don't know  how much of the character survives in these pictures.
#15
Ahh well, then I got that wrong...

And about Snape - for me, the most interesting part about the 7th book is not who is going to die but to get an answer on which side Snape is and to know the reason why dumbledore trusted him...