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Title: Why Voldemort can't kill Harry.
Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on July 20, 2005, 09:36:08 AM
I would say that this is a spoiler right now since I think that this might be true. So spoiler warning everybody.






Remember when Dumbledore said that Harry might be happy that he let Pettigrew live? Well, I have concluded after a large amount of reading, (and a large amount of torturing Rowling) is that Voldemort can't kill Harry. When Harry let Pettigrew live, he created a bond that Peter owes Harry his life. And when Peter poured his own blood to make Voldemort come back, that means a part of Voldemort can not kill Harry. Otherwise, saying, that Voldemort owes Harry his life. See, this is not as bad as the R.A.B. rumor I started.
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Post by: 0612 on July 20, 2005, 04:30:48 PM
Hey! That makes sense!
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on July 20, 2005, 11:37:33 PM
Really? I was looking at this for comedian material.
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Post by: 0612 on July 21, 2005, 03:05:34 PM
No, seriously. It makes sense!!!
We could ask Dumbledore, but pity...
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on July 23, 2005, 12:32:08 PM
Yep. Pity.
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Post by: A. Nitwitt Blubber H. Dumbledore on July 24, 2005, 10:29:12 PM
Actually that really makes alot of sense-J.K. Rowling doesnt just write things like that as throw away.Id wondered what would happen with pettigrew-thought maybe he would die at some point stopping voldemort killing Harry but this makes more sense;as it fits in with J.K. Rowling's pattern of leaving small hints in her books.
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Post by: harrypotterluvr224 on July 26, 2005, 09:37:19 PM
um... 411, all the books say that voldie can't kill Harry because Lilly Potter let herself be killed for Harry and it caused a bond for him. Harry has more than Voldie... he has love.
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on August 23, 2005, 07:40:54 AM
Yeah. But so does Voldemort because Harry's blood is in him. So Lily's love can't help him against Voldemort now. You should have already known that.
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Post by: pig on August 23, 2005, 09:18:00 PM
 this is a relay good thoery and it makes a lot of sense  ;D
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Post by: Neo on August 24, 2005, 01:33:53 AM
ehhhh...it makes sense, but i don't think its right. I think that Pettigrew is going to turn on the Dark Lord in the final book and help Harry, because he will view it as making up for his betrayl of Lily and James. In the third book, didn't Peter say that "The Dark Lord has powerful weapons" or something? And think of the way he was treated at the beginning of the 6th book by Snape. Pettigrew might just get tired of it and when he sees that Harry might be able to defeat Voldemort, he may help Harry finish him off.

But that's just my theory.
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Post by: Lord-Harrymort on August 25, 2005, 08:34:07 AM
Personally, I think that Harry's scar is the last Horcrux, so that Harry might have to die to get rid of Voldemort. I mean in the earlier books Dumbledore says that Voldemort poured a bit of himself into Harry by accident and that is why Harry has some of Voldemort's talents. So if the scar is the last Horcrux than the only way for Harry to destroy the Horcrux is to destroy himself. What about that, I think it might be true. But than again it is just a theory.
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on August 25, 2005, 10:10:13 AM
I thought about that. But then I thought, why would Voldemort put a horcrux in somebody he was planning to kill?
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Post by: LavyBrown on August 25, 2005, 10:13:24 AM
lolz good point....but if you think about it it makes sence. I mean if you know that someone was always going to be safe wouldn't you give them something.
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Post by: Neo on August 25, 2005, 07:16:12 PM
but he didnt know that harry was going to be safe. and that says nothing about the fact that in the last 6 books, HE HAS TRIED TO DESTROY HARRY! why would he destroy harry if harry had his last horcrux? and also, voldemort only used things with magical history, except for the diary, which would allow people to see that he was the Heir of Slytherian. He would never use the body of a Muggle-born who he was told was phophetized to destroy him. it doesn't make sense.
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Post by: LavyBrown on August 26, 2005, 12:47:26 AM
ya,ya,ya whatever. Besides Harry dose have magciacl history
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on August 31, 2005, 09:04:58 PM
By the way Neo, Harry isn't muggle born. His parents, Lily and James, both have magical blood in them.
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 1, 2005, 01:22:23 AM
Hold the phone. What the hell is going on. If Harry' parents are both wizards then that makes him pure blood. But Voldy's dad was a muggle. Which makes him half blood. So how can Harry be Voldy's equal if Harry's a pure blood and Voldy isn't.
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Post by: Neo on September 1, 2005, 01:37:03 AM
Harry isnt pure bl00d, goblet's forgetting that Harry's mom was Muggle born, thats why Snape called her a Mudbl00d, remember? So, my theory still stands.
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 1, 2005, 02:20:03 AM
no not really. See Lily was half-blood but she's still a witch. James was a wizard. That means,  tenacliy Harry is pure blood. And besids, if Harry wasn't pire-blood then why would Malfoy also call him mud-blood. Oh, I'm confussed now, Screw it man.
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on September 1, 2005, 04:45:08 AM
It doesn't matter if Lily is muggle born. Harry's pure cause both parents are able to do magic.
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 1, 2005, 04:47:52 AM
yep but Voldy isn't so how is Harry his equal?
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Post by: applejuice on September 1, 2005, 05:29:38 AM
Quote from: goblet_fulla_fire on September  1, 2005, 04:45:08 AM
It doesn't matter if Lily is muggle born. Harry's pure cause both parents are able to do magic.
i thought you're only pureblood if you have no trace of "muggle blood" whatsoever.
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Post by: Neo on September 1, 2005, 07:04:05 AM
Thats what I thought.
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 1, 2005, 07:26:49 AM
no it's if your parents have magic or not.
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on September 1, 2005, 07:31:20 AM
Equal in power is probobly what they meant.
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 1, 2005, 07:49:34 AM
oh, ya dear, cause a baby has the same amont of power as a 50+ year old man.
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on September 1, 2005, 07:53:36 AM
You are being sarcastic. Then sarcastic THIS!!! How is Harry not be able to die from the hands of Voldie? Looks like Harry had mo powa than Voldie. The only reason Voldie lived is because he had a horcrux.
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 1, 2005, 07:57:45 AM
I don't see Voldy 6 feet under.
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on September 1, 2005, 08:00:20 AM
Que?
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 1, 2005, 08:29:58 AM
Voldy isn't dead
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on September 1, 2005, 08:32:26 AM
That's my piont.
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 1, 2005, 08:37:12 AM
no, I mean................never mind
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on September 1, 2005, 08:48:43 AM
Yes. You mind your never.
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 1, 2005, 08:57:19 AM
lolz your stupid  :-\
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Post by: Neo on September 1, 2005, 10:55:48 AM
Did goblet forget that Dumbledore told Harry the only reason he survived is because he was protected by "the ancient magic" which the act of supreme love Harry's mom showed by sacrificing herself to try and save Harry? He has no extrodinary power, he was protected by his mothers demise. And as for the other things which had been said, have you also forgotten that Nevill could also have been chosen, and he is the true purebl00d? But Harry, like Voldemort, is mixed? It matters that Harry's mom was Muggle born, for although he wouldn't be as despised by the D.E.'s and might even be allowed in, as Snape was, his mom would not have been. Harry has Muggle bl00d in him, and that matters.
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 1, 2005, 10:58:23 AM
whatever it doen't really matter anymore. Let J.K.R spec for herself
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on September 1, 2005, 10:58:47 AM
Sigh. I'm tired of explaining to you all. Never mind.
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 1, 2005, 11:00:24 AM
yes. mind your never
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Post by: Neo on September 2, 2005, 10:07:58 PM
Goblet's just mad that he's wrong  ::)
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 3, 2005, 01:36:04 AM
or maybe is tired of explaining it over and over
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Post by: Neo on September 3, 2005, 02:25:02 AM
or not
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 3, 2005, 02:29:23 AM
or he is
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Post by: Neo on September 3, 2005, 02:48:53 AM
or maybe he isnt  ;D
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 3, 2005, 02:59:28 AM
or maybe he is ::)
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Post by: Neo on September 3, 2005, 03:02:58 AM
or maybe he isnt  ::) ;D
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 3, 2005, 03:41:23 AM
pr maybe he is
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on September 3, 2005, 08:36:36 AM
Yes, I'm tired of explaining it. I mean, what's the point of explaining something correct if the person you are explaining it to is saying Nope! You're wrong!
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 5, 2005, 11:18:33 AM
let's move on
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Post by: KeeperGirl on September 5, 2005, 03:26:41 PM
One more thing and then you can end it..
Lily was wasn't half witch becasue her sister petunia or wateva said she was the only freak in the family.....and i dont think harry is a horocrux because wouldn't you need to go through a process if dividing your soul..so whoeva said harry is not a horocrux i stand by you..and isn't it whoever voldemorts hitlist people are he takes something from them and divides is soul into that ...harry is not something he wants ...he wants to kill so no one is equal to him or woteva....and  voldemort didn't know the whole prophercy, he only heard about the beginning, 'born at the end of a particular month'..........finished
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Post by: uNoPoh on September 15, 2005, 11:10:32 AM
But what can be more dividing to your soul than almost getting killed.
Maybe goblet is right and it was some kind of accident that Harry is now a horcurx - thats a possibility. Trying to kill somebody and fail usually doesn't leave traces of yourself on your victim - I suppose.
Anyway - still it leaves a number of possibilities for book 7
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on September 15, 2005, 08:24:33 PM
Voldie, Nagani, locket, cup, ring, potion, and diary. That's the 7 horcruxes.
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 18, 2005, 03:46:48 AM
potion?
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on September 18, 2005, 05:19:07 AM
Potion? You don't know what the potion was? Hmm, lets see how to put this. THE ONE THAT DUMBLEDORE DRANK!!!!
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Post by: Neo on September 18, 2005, 06:55:35 AM
but the potion wasnt the Horcrux, it was part of Voldemort's defenses of the Horcrux. The Horcrux was Syltheran's locket. Remeber R.A.B. and the fake locket?
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 18, 2005, 09:04:58 AM
haha I win lolz ;D
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on September 18, 2005, 09:38:57 AM
I am too lazy to check back in the book. So there is only one solution to this debate. DEBATING!!!! Um, uuhhhhhhhhh, the potion was the horcrux and uhhhh, I'm....better than everybody.
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 18, 2005, 10:14:55 AM
you wish goblet. I won a long time ago
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on September 18, 2005, 09:09:10 PM
In a land far far away?
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 19, 2005, 01:13:32 AM
Nope in a land close close behind lolz
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on September 19, 2005, 03:08:18 AM
Its floating above you.
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 19, 2005, 06:39:46 AM
it's all around me
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on September 19, 2005, 08:23:55 AM
cool.
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 19, 2005, 08:27:01 AM
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: KeeperGirl on September 20, 2005, 08:05:57 PM
i dont think the book said what the last horcrux was anyway
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on September 21, 2005, 05:41:58 AM
Well, I'm too lazy to czech.
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Post by: Neo on September 21, 2005, 06:24:12 AM
your chechen? lol
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on September 21, 2005, 08:19:40 PM
No, but everybody else is in my town.
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Post by: tealeaf on September 26, 2005, 08:47:28 AM
smart ! i never knew it i thought he cant kill him cuz of the love of mum bla bla bla ......
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Post by: KeeperGirl on September 26, 2005, 04:01:42 PM
i dunno we will find out later what happens
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Post by: jon weasley on September 27, 2005, 08:37:24 AM
i guess so
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on September 27, 2005, 09:51:11 AM
The love of mum doesn't matter because Harry's blood is in Voldemorts!
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Post by: jon weasley on September 28, 2005, 03:33:47 AM
ohhhhhhhhh
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Post by: KeeperGirl on September 28, 2005, 03:35:47 PM
yer....so i dont think there is any real protection for him now hes on his own basically
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on September 29, 2005, 06:55:38 AM
Yep.
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Post by: LavyBrown on September 29, 2005, 07:10:36 AM
wel Harrt's life sucks, but the again remember when dumboledor said that voldy didn't know real love
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Post by: jon weasley on September 30, 2005, 05:04:38 AM
oh yeah
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on September 30, 2005, 10:22:57 AM
Ummmmmmmmm, so?
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Post by: jon weasley on October 1, 2005, 06:57:22 AM
so what
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on October 1, 2005, 08:04:43 AM
So whay that Voldie didn't know real love?
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Post by: LavyBrown on October 1, 2005, 09:59:03 AM
well then it dosen't matter if he has Harry's blood, he can't love, unlike Harry.
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on October 1, 2005, 11:10:03 AM
He loves money though.
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Post by: LavyBrown on October 1, 2005, 11:27:28 AM
what dose that have to do with it?
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on October 1, 2005, 11:42:09 AM
Everything! That's why love exists!
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Post by: LavyBrown on October 1, 2005, 12:08:34 PM
lol no not really and where in the books dose it say he loves money or even sugest he loves money?
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on October 1, 2005, 09:50:13 PM
I love money! You love money! Everything exists because of money!
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Post by: LavyBrown on October 2, 2005, 01:40:09 AM
no everyone exist because of God. Everyone  is still living because of money there is a differnce.
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Post by: jon weasley on October 2, 2005, 08:50:53 AM
yeah
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Post by: KeeperGirl on October 2, 2005, 11:53:01 AM
but if there is no money everyone is a bum and will die of disease on the street coz they cant afford anything so i think money is everything really..............
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Post by: jon weasley on October 2, 2005, 10:29:16 PM
well the world could just be very genorous and just give people stuff
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Post by: LavyBrown on October 3, 2005, 01:39:06 AM
oh, so true
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on October 3, 2005, 04:43:58 AM
World can't be perfect.
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Post by: LavyBrown on October 3, 2005, 04:48:47 AM
how unfortunate
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Post by: jon weasley on October 3, 2005, 05:16:58 AM
yes very unfortunate
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Post by: KeeperGirl on October 3, 2005, 10:19:53 AM
nothing is perfect anyway
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Post by: LavyBrown on October 3, 2005, 11:20:15 AM
that's the most unfortunate thing of it all
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Post by: goblet_fulla_fire on October 3, 2005, 08:34:03 PM
If everything was perfect, the world would be dull.
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Post by: KeeperGirl on October 4, 2005, 09:22:51 AM
lol, agreed
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Post by: jon weasley on October 5, 2005, 05:50:51 AM
yes very very very ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddduuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuulllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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Post by: LavyBrown on October 5, 2005, 09:15:43 AM
yes I'm in  agreement
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Post by: KeeperGirl on October 5, 2005, 09:27:10 AM
lol
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Post by: jon weasley on January 3, 2006, 09:39:41 AM
very very dulllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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Post by: siriusfan on May 18, 2007, 10:35:45 PM
ok first of all this does make sense and second of all how and why did u torture jk rowling
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Post by: harrypotterfan:) on May 26, 2007, 10:33:31 AM
huh?? who tortured...?