Hey i was just wondering what you guys thought about Snape-do you think he's really evil?Shortly before he kills Dumbledore the book reads:
Snape gazed for a moment at Dumbledore,and there was revulsion and hatred eteched in the harsh lines of his face.
"Serverus ... please ..."
Now I could be reading far too much into this but earlier in the book we read that Dumbledore was angry with Snape in the forest.Now isnt it possible that Snape told Dumbledore about the unbreakable vow and dumbledore decided he would have to be killed as it would profit the Order more having a spy as Voldemort's favourite death eater; and when Dumbledore said "Serverus...please" he was getting Snape to kill him. The revulsion in snapes face could perhaps have been revulsion at what he was about to do not actually at Dumbledore. The arguement in the forest could have been snape trying to get out of it. Also if Snape was a death eater surely he would have played with Dumbledore for a while before killing him as they seem to nearly always do this if they arent in a tight spot. And before any of that above, Dumbledore said "serverus" in a pleading voice.Now i cant believe that Dumbledore would plead to get out of being killed surely he would merely bow to "the next great adventure" and even though he was wandless surely a great wizard like Dumbledore could have done something-for instance Harry was able to light his wand when he and dudley were attacked without holding it;so surely Dumbledore could have at least deflected the spell untill he got his wand if he didnt want to die. It may seem a bit far-fetched but it just seems like a Dumbledore-esque thing. Well should i call for the straight-jackets? :)
hehe my snapey :D thats a good theory...but snape needed to do it before anyone stopped him cos if he didnt do it he wud die himself... and he has had many chances to kill harry and hasnt...he always protected him wen he cud have used opportunities to harm him...but maybe voldemort wants to kill harry himself??? but I duno. something tells me Snape really is a death eater and that he is supporting Voldemort...just my opinion. But I still love Snape like crazzzzy! Even if he is supporting you-know-w..VOLDEMORT.
hmm i get the feeling you're almost toooo obsessed with Snape. ;)
After a bit of re-reading i also noticed that when snape was about to do the unbreakable vow,when they reached the bit about performing malfoys duty if he couldnt do it,snapes hand shook and he paused for a second.Of course this could just be for dramatic perposes;but it could also be JK giving us a clue.. .. *music from the x-files*
I think he had been biding his time to do something like this... book 4 GOF offers a lot of clues about the fact that he never stops supporting the dark lord... for example see page 370 in goblet. of fire. snape is heard by harry talking to the other school head and he is/was a death eater.... theyre convo suggests that they were trying to ensure that something happened to harry. when karkaroff thinks he cant do something any more, snape says ''then flee i will make ur excuses but i am remaining in hogwarts.' K. obviously cannot stand lying any more but snape wishes to remain in his secure position.
just out of interest as i dont remember: did we ever find out who put harrys name in the goblet for sure? cos if not...it was probably snape.
OMG OMG OMG I have been re-reading the 4th book.... and I think I may be wrong? maybe ur idea is partly correct???
I now remain undecided as to whether snape is really good or bad...because JK rowling has smartly left it open to be either.
the clues i wrote in my other responses to this post (scroll up) show how snape could be bad....
BUT in GOF there r many statements tht could make him good?
on page 565, Voldemort says: ''and here we have 6 missing deatheaters.'' we then learn that 3 died serving him. he then says of the remaining 3: "one who is too cowardly to return, one who I believe has left me forever and one who remains my most faithful servant and who has reenetered my service'' One of these 3 has to be Severus Snape, one Karkaroff and one the young Barty Crouch... or so I believe, yet it is hard to distinguish which is which, as although voldemort says that his most faithful servant IS in hogwarts and brought harry here tonight the young barty crouch admits to putting harrys name in the goblet...in which case he is the most faithful servant meanign that snape cannot be on voldemorts side....
UNLESS that faithful servant is snape who has reentered the service (as i didnt htink crouch had ever left it) but then it is confuisng.
THEN at the end of goblet of fire, dumbledore sends snape on a ''mission'' he doesnt look keen on but does neways...regarding soemthing to do with the death eaters. SO maybe this was a plan that snape would kill dumbledore and in doing so, would give voldemort a false sense of security in believing that snape was on his side. If so, dumbledore possibly agreed to die to stop voldemort as if harry and snape teamed up they could kill voldemort before he knew what had hit him... but then why the unbreakable vow in book 6? ... maybe if snape had alrrady agreed to kill dumbledore by dumbledore himself, then he saw no harm in going along with this to trick voldemort even further....... but if this is the case, the 3 death eater thing is still confusing...
ANYWAYS, i really dont know what to believe! because snape seems so evil...(and HOT).....but i duno. arghhh. I hope she doesnt kill him off in the last book...bet she does.
Severus Snape used to be my favourite character until he killed Dumbledore. I was so shocked, and after all the trust and protection Dumbledore gave him! I don't know about everyone else but I despise Snape now. And the meeting in the woods was probably something about the conversation Snape had with Malfoy in the classroom that Harry reported. Maybe not...meh. Do you think theres going to be another book? There better be...'cause they CANNOT end it like that...he has to find the horcruxes!!!
The 7th and final book wont be finished for 2 years... which is stupid...JK rowling should write it faster hehe.
I still love snapey :) bet u all knew i was gona say that...
Hey just another little note on the missing death eaters but unless im mistaken karakoff gets killed off in the hbp so he has to be the one gone forever.
You guys are crazy, in a good way, don't try to figure it out wih only half of the info your need to know. Be patiant and we'll know if snap is good or bad :P ::) ;)
Once again, IT MAKES SENSE!!! YAY!!!
Well... don't forget: A phoenix flew out of the flames when Dumbledore was 'burning'. I guess this is a clue that Dumbledore actually did a Copperfield and he's still living.
I dont think dumbledore is still alive... unless he did wat voldemort did and Fawkes is his horcrux... but the fact that Fawkes left hogwarts at the end suggests not.
and it said tht thing about the missing deatheaters in book 4 so voldemort wud not yet have known about Karkaroff... so he has to be the one that too cowardly to rejoin voldemort as he said he wud kill that one...
i dunooo. neways i still lurve snapey. lol
lolz. Well mayFawkes didn't 'leave' hogwarts. maybe he went to go find the person that he needs to bring dumbledore back to life, Say.....Hagraid.
how can hagrid bring dumbledore back to life??? :-\
Dumbledore is dead, that's all there is too it.... :-\
Lets think about this for a second how can hagrid save Dumbledore.....how can hagrid save Dumbledore do you got it now
I haven't a clue what you're talking about!
Dumbledore is gone, get over it people! Geeze, this is like the 7th thread on this just on this page of the forum!
I agree... ::)
WTF! You think snape is what?
whatever
Ya don't type in the subject...... oy.....
I have to admit that no i dont want it to be dumbledore is most likely dead, and in regards to someone saying dumbledore had a horcrux-thats a bit stupid in my opinion as dumbldore has always been the ultimate "good guy" and Hermione read tht horcruxs were the "worst inventions of magic"-ask yourself would dumbledore really use the worst form of magic?