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Title: the cave
Post by: ronweazley122 on July 12, 2007, 11:39:25 AM
so...in the chapter, the cave(from hbp)...what do you think the potion did to dumbledore? I have a couple theories...one being it was boggart like. it showed a fear of his.another, is that it brought up an old memory..a dark memory of his.
Title: Re: the cave
Post by: 0612 on July 12, 2007, 03:58:19 PM
Many theories are plausible, but I personally think that Dumbledore was like, stricken out of his senses by the potion, so it wasn't really him that Harry force-fed the potion. After a while the effects began to wear off, but he was still weak.
Title: Re: the cave
Post by: uNoPoh on July 12, 2007, 05:04:28 PM
I think Dumbledore in delirium said something like: "No, don't kill them, kill me instead. "
Personally I think he was forced to recall or once again witness the killing of Harrys parents.
I think it is possible that he feels responsible for their death, since he permitted to be overheard listening to the prophecy.

Well, I really don't know...
Title: Re: the cave
Post by: harrypotterfan:) on July 14, 2007, 09:29:31 AM
I don't know....how would he feel guilty of his parents' deaths?
I really just think the potion had poison in it....I don't know....
Title: Re: the cave
Post by: ronweazley122 on July 14, 2007, 11:58:07 AM
remember, though?dumbledore at one point says..."don't hurt them." and how "he did wrong."
Title: Re: the cave
Post by: harrypotterfan:) on July 15, 2007, 10:20:52 AM
where was that...LOL???
Title: Re: the cave
Post by: ronweazley122 on July 15, 2007, 01:23:31 PM
in "the cave"
Title: Re: the cave
Post by: uNoPoh on July 16, 2007, 07:19:03 PM
To the question, how can dumbledore feel responsible for the death of his parents.
Just a theory:
What if Snape had not overheard just a part of the prophecy, but ran to voldemort and told him just the part, he has heard.
Maybe the order was so desperate that they agreed to feed Voldemort with this part of the prophecy. And the part "mark him as equal" did not state, that he was going to kill his parents and trying on the equal.
Maybe they all agreed, that in order to create the ultimate weapon against voldemort (Harry, or Neville - at that point), they would take the risk and let the information pass.

I don't know, its just a theory. But that could explain why Dumbledore could feel responsible. He didn't realize that Harrys parents would die, when he passed the information on.

When Snape really only "overheard" the prophecy, there would be a very small "time window", because the barmen interrupted Dumbledore and the professor when he caught snape more or less immediately. And surely the prophecy was not given in two parts - one before the interruption, and one after. So to me it seems, the chances are very low, that snape only overheard a part.
Title: Re: the cave
Post by: hermionescool on July 17, 2007, 11:22:12 AM
Quote from: ronweazley122 on July 12, 2007, 11:39:25 AM
so...in the chapter, the cave(from hbp)...what do you think the potion did to dumbledore? I have a couple theories...one being it was boggart like. it showed a fear of his.another, is that it brought up an old memory..a dark memory of his.
i agree but disagree i mean maybe a childhood memory he was kind of acting like a child?