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Title: War
Post by: Emma G. on March 19, 2003, 03:24:05 AM
who thinks we are going war I dont think preasedent will back out now who agrees

by the way all of my relatives r  in that weird place :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re:War
Post by: Radcliffe on March 19, 2003, 03:37:01 AM
 :'(My dad is in the army and I'm scared he will be called to active duty. :bigcry:
Title: Re:War
Post by: Emma Watson on March 19, 2003, 03:39:19 AM
if he hasnt been yet then the only way this is a probally the only way is if there is a draft  and i dont think that will happen
i hope this helped you think it over
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on March 19, 2003, 05:54:30 AM
Whom, exactly, is we?  I know that US is at war with Iraq.  But that's it.. so far at least.  President Bush is a stupid blankity blank for declaring war.  Gr, I'm so freaking mad. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re:War
Post by: Gengi on March 19, 2003, 11:49:51 AM
Man, I've heard so much about this. @.@ If you want to hear the whole story behind this war, I can tell ya.

*Sigh* And did you know, the Stock Market might crash in, or around, 2016? And I mean CRASH as in, worst in history? @_- I could tell you all about that too.

Oi. *Rubs heart* :(
Title: Re:War
Post by: Emma Watson on March 20, 2003, 09:15:00 AM
im sick and tired of pple saying it is Bush's falt its not
he cant kill ossadobinlauden cause that would b assassination dont u peoplle understand

sorry about that :)

its just that not to many ppl understand
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on March 20, 2003, 09:33:38 AM
This has nothing to do with Osama Bin Laden.  It's about Saddam Hoosein(sp majorly)!  This is Iraq, not Afghanistan.  Assassination is better that a flippin WAR!  I don't think you understand, Emma Watson.

Wait, Gengi, there's GOING to be a stock market crash in 2016?  ???
I know the story too.. and I think that the strategy they're using is a good one.  I'm not mad anymore.. but I still think that Bush is an idiot.

Title: Re:War
Post by: Gengi on March 20, 2003, 10:16:51 AM
Well, you gatta remember he has A LOT of pressure on his shoulders. @@;; We're going to have to stick with him.

Yuh, the Stock Market might crash when the baby- boomers all retaire and begin to take their retierment funds and turn them into cash. Or something along those lines. See The Prophecy of Rich Dad from the bestseller stock investment book, Rich Dad, Poor Dad.
We were listening to an autio of the 'Prophecy' on the way home. It actually very good and informative.... and I don't even like that stuff! I recommend it to everyone. It will teach you a lot! :)
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on March 21, 2003, 04:33:32 AM
Well, that makes sense.

Pressure my patootie...  Vegeance is not a good thing.
Title: Re:War
Post by: Emma Watson on March 21, 2003, 05:15:18 AM
i do 2 switch that name that i put in 2 saudam whatever his name is
if u were bush what would u do its not his falt he is our presedent u r accusing him of this being his falt im not trying to b mean but that is what u r saying
Title: Re:War
Post by: Lily_Evans on March 21, 2003, 06:06:37 AM
Ya
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on March 22, 2003, 02:35:43 AM
What am I saying is his fault?  The war?  He declared it for gods sake!  

Once, on the Connie Chung show, she was saying how former Presidents had helped Saddam Hussein become the person he is today.  They gave him weapons, they gave him formulas.  And now Bush is pissed because he's afraid he'd use them against us.  *knocks on all the former pres's heads*  I don't know what they were thinking, but they sure are stupid.
And, why is this such a huge problem now?  If they've given Hussein 12 years, what's wrong with last year?  Or the year before that?  They were just giving him more time to plot and strategize.  It's all a conspiracy to keep us afraid, and in line.  That's what I think at least.
Title: Re:War
Post by: Emma G. on March 22, 2003, 09:56:48 AM
look they think he has chemicals  the scary thing is that he does not care if he dies 4 his country his men and him and us will die
but that might have just been a cover up

i think i no what u 2 r trying 2 say :)
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on March 22, 2003, 10:10:30 AM
They know he has a building that contains 40 gallons of anthrax, and that the Iraqi soldiers have mustard gas bullets.... *sigh*
Title: Re:War
Post by: Lily_Evans on March 22, 2003, 12:11:07 PM
OMG!


My uncle died.... :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on March 22, 2003, 12:36:16 PM
OMG!  :-\  I so sorry!  *hugs HG*  :(
Title: Re:War
Post by: Lily_Evans on March 22, 2003, 12:41:52 PM
I'm Ok, I barely know him! I met him Twice, and that is it, btu still sad. *is ok*
Title: Re:War
Post by: Emma G. on March 22, 2003, 10:49:24 PM
They do not  >:( >:( >:( >:(
that is what he said it might be a cover
Title: Re:War
Post by: Lily_Evans on March 23, 2003, 02:46:03 AM
huh?
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on March 23, 2003, 05:15:31 AM
???  
Title: Re:War
Post by: Emma G. on March 23, 2003, 07:04:28 AM
i live really close to ny i here a lot of stuff that the presedent and othe news reportrs
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on March 24, 2003, 07:44:12 AM
It doesn't matter where you live.  Everyone gets the same amount of info.
Title: Re:War
Post by: Emma G. on March 25, 2003, 07:42:06 AM
who cares about that tons of our guys r dieing if those american pple dont kill bin and that other guy i will  i hate there guts so bad so they better be ready for death a very painful one too very very very painful :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury: :fury:
Title: Re:War
Post by: ronweazley122 on March 25, 2003, 07:53:50 AM
ur very insensitive!!!(AND RUDE) :o and no offense,but haw do you expect to kill them all? ::) and they went out there on the pres's orders!and its hermione_g's uncle we're talking about!not 'some guy' >:( >:(RUDE!!!!
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on March 25, 2003, 12:13:59 PM
I'm sorry but I cannot understand yer posts, Emma G.  And, sitting here, ranting, won't do a thing!  If you feel so deeply for this, then go out and help some way.
Title: Re:War
Post by: ronweazley122 on March 26, 2003, 08:40:10 AM
*nod*
Title: Re:War
Post by: Lily_Evans on March 27, 2003, 06:40:03 AM
Thanks Ron!


Emma, I have no idea what the heck u r talking about, I'm not trying to be mean either.

And your saying you don't care about the people fighting for YOU no offence but your acting very selfish, No my uncle didn't serve for America but Scotland. aND ur saying let's say one of your friends or someone you know dad/mum's serving wouldn't you care for there saftey?
Title: Re:War
Post by: ronweazley122 on March 27, 2003, 10:46:43 AM
*nod*
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on March 27, 2003, 12:39:07 PM
*sigh*  we've lost her...  v_v
Title: Re:War
Post by: ronweazley122 on March 27, 2003, 11:09:20 PM
its all my fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :'( :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:
Title: Re:War
Post by: Lily_Evans on March 28, 2003, 05:20:36 AM
*Surprisingly hugs Ron*

It's ok, Don't worry!
Title: Re:War
Post by: ronweazley122 on March 28, 2003, 06:49:46 AM
*blinks*i was just kidding!
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on March 28, 2003, 09:57:39 AM
*watches* hm...
Title: Re:War
Post by: ronweazley122 on March 29, 2003, 06:51:04 AM
lol what?!
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on March 29, 2003, 10:22:01 AM
interesting... very interesting... *strokes chin thoughtfully*
Title: Re:War
Post by: ronweazley122 on March 29, 2003, 10:27:30 AM
*rolls eyes*! this is not the book,shui!(I would be able to tell because you would not be here.)
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on March 29, 2003, 10:30:49 AM
What do you mean? ???
Title: Re:War
Post by: ronweazley122 on March 29, 2003, 10:32:56 AM
nm......*pulls out sploading' snap cards out*
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on March 29, 2003, 10:35:18 AM
okey..... :|
Title: Re:War
Post by: ronweazley122 on March 29, 2003, 10:41:39 AM
want to play?
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on March 29, 2003, 10:42:59 AM
sure
Title: Re:War
Post by: ronweazley122 on March 29, 2003, 10:51:58 AM
*starts building card house*
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on March 29, 2003, 12:16:49 PM
*watches*  I've never made a successful one...
Title: Re:War
Post by: MrsRadcliffe0480 on March 29, 2003, 12:40:07 PM
*house explodes*

Anyway... this war is just stupid. Bush is doing the right thing though. I shouldn't have to be afraid every time I hear a plane fly by my house (which I am because I live less than a mile away from a nuclear power plant). And my brother-in-law is in Iraq fighting right now!

*starts building another card house*
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on March 29, 2003, 12:42:04 PM
I'd rather be in instant killing range than watching ppls body parts fall off fer a couple days b4 I die... *shrug*
Title: Re:War
Post by: Twisted Lemon Sher on March 29, 2003, 10:59:39 PM
I hope we woop there buts.  Did you know that there are already a lot of guys surrendering? Oh and I hate the plains by my house too.  They always go so low.
Title: Re:War
Post by: ronweazley122 on March 29, 2003, 11:46:03 PM
huh? ???
Title: Re:War
Post by: Twisted Lemon Sher on March 30, 2003, 12:39:16 AM
Huh what? What can't you understand? I'm not trying to be mean eather.
Title: Re:War
Post by: MrsRadcliffe0480 on March 31, 2003, 03:10:13 AM
I think he said that because you had a lot of spelling errors. Here's the corrected version Ron:

I hope we whoop their butts. Did you know there are already a lot of guys surrendering? Oh and I hate the planes by my house too. They always go so low.

No offense to you Twisted Lemon Sher.
Title: Re:War
Post by: ronweazley122 on March 31, 2003, 06:22:58 AM
thanks amy,but i was wondering what she ment when she said that planes fly over her house
Title: Re:War
Post by: MrsRadcliffe0480 on March 31, 2003, 06:26:23 AM
She meant exactly what she said. Planes fly over her house. They fly over my house too.
Title: Re:War
Post by: Lily_Evans on March 31, 2003, 06:39:09 AM
of course they do, what did you expect?
Title: Re:War
Post by: ronweazley122 on March 31, 2003, 06:46:24 AM
Oh,riiiight.:|
Title: Re:War
Post by: Lily_Evans on March 31, 2003, 06:48:18 AM
seriously Ron! ::)
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on March 31, 2003, 10:20:09 AM
Same here... they do fly really low.
Title: Re:War
Post by: ronweazley122 on April 1, 2003, 09:44:01 PM
i think its happened,like i hear the planes.But i won't see them
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on April 3, 2003, 07:55:53 AM
hm...
Title: Re:War
Post by: ronweazley122 on April 3, 2003, 09:37:33 AM
okay,shui i am begiing to see a pattern....why do you keep posting hmmm?
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on April 4, 2003, 11:56:29 AM
lol, 'coz there's nothing else to say 'sides a contemplative sound...
Title: Re:War
Post by: Lily_Evans on April 5, 2003, 03:25:40 AM
lol! there's others to, but w/eva
Title: Re:War
Post by: Twisted Lemon Sher on April 5, 2003, 10:03:16 PM
whatever
Title: Re:War
Post by: ronweazley122 on April 6, 2003, 02:59:27 AM
 :D
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on April 7, 2003, 04:05:49 AM
:)
Title: Re:War
Post by: Lily_Evans on April 7, 2003, 04:42:54 AM
 ???
Title: Re:War
Post by: Twisted Lemon Sher on April 15, 2003, 02:35:20 AM
What is with the change of the website here  and where do u get the other smilies :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re:War
Post by: emily824 on April 15, 2003, 09:33:30 AM
my dad's a major in the army and he might have to go
Title: Re:War
Post by: Twisted Lemon Sher on April 15, 2003, 10:53:31 AM
im sorry about your dad :'(  I wish we didn't have to go to war but sadum deserves to die and our country can beat them I know they can't get to us
Title: Re:War
Post by: Kiara Johnson on April 15, 2003, 05:57:17 PM
Quote from: Twisted Lemon Sher on April 15, 2003, 10:53:31 AM
im sorry about your dad :'(  I wish we didn't have to go to war but sadum deserves to die and our country can beat them I know they can't get to us

;) agree with you i do.  That pig should be boiled in his own County's oil.-grrr i hat that man---oops did I say man... I meant thing.
Title: Re:War
Post by: ronweazley122 on April 15, 2003, 11:45:13 PM
 ;D
Title: Re:War
Post by: Lily_Evans on April 16, 2003, 06:49:29 AM
LOL Kiara!
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Post by: emily824 on April 17, 2003, 09:13:06 AM
ya i know he has to be taken care of...i've lived over there! well, saudi arabia for two years and lots of other places
Title: Re:War
Post by: ronweazley122 on April 18, 2003, 08:10:59 AM
was it fun?
Title: Re:War
Post by: Lily_Evans on April 18, 2003, 08:50:41 PM
Fuin! 8)
Title: Re:War
Post by: Twisted Lemon Sher on April 19, 2003, 01:14:08 AM
I'm more scared of that place than I am Voldemort.  No I'm not crazy.  I know Voldemort is fake. :D
Title: Re:War
Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on April 20, 2003, 07:42:03 AM
*siiiigh*  ¬¬  I ain't gonna say a word.
Title: Re:War
Post by: Lily_Evans on April 20, 2003, 09:25:41 PM
what is it???
Title: Re:War
Post by: Gengi on April 22, 2003, 10:20:51 AM
Wha..? Lord Moldyshorts?? Huh?
Title: Re:War
Post by: Twisted Lemon Sher on April 23, 2003, 09:51:12 AM
I think Bush is moving too fast he sent 45,000 british home, and 2 of our I don't know what they are called.  He is still moving too fast.  I think someting is going to happen
Title: Re:War
Post by: Lily_Evans on April 28, 2003, 04:47:23 AM
Something bad...
Title: Re:War
Post by: Twisted Lemon Sher on May 2, 2003, 09:10:11 AM
Yes something bad.

And as sor not saying a word there is a reason I'm afraid of that place!  Not afraid Just don't like it!
Title: Re:War
Post by: Kiara Johnson on May 2, 2003, 01:20:25 PM
Really?  You think maybe too soon?  I hope not.  That is scary to think about.  *Puts blanket over head and cries.
Title: Re:War
Post by: Lily_Evans on May 3, 2003, 05:28:11 AM
*Is surprised to see a slytherin crying*
Title: Re:War
Post by: Kiara Johnson on May 3, 2003, 06:27:22 AM
*Wipes eyes and looks really emaraced*  You didn't see that, ok?
Title: Re:War
Post by: ronweazley122 on May 4, 2003, 06:53:48 AM
slythins may cry to! :'( :'( don't feel bad....
Title: Re:War
Post by: Kiara Johnson on May 4, 2003, 10:32:51 AM
*Smiles at Ron*   thanks.
Title: Re:War
Post by: Twisted Lemon Sher on May 5, 2003, 01:56:00 AM
Slytherin cry   *laughs* not at you though  I guess it was not that funny
Title: Re:War
Post by: AcId_BrOoZ on May 5, 2003, 09:59:17 AM
*Yawn* im tired. neways, bush is a rude word for a donkey which i wont say here. As ron (from the book) would say He's a bloody idiot!!!! GGGGRRRRRRRRR.....
Title: Re:War
Post by: Kiara Johnson on May 5, 2003, 03:19:09 PM
I have cried many, 'dragon tears', before.  *Laughs*
Title: Re:War
Post by: Twisted Lemon Sher on May 6, 2003, 08:58:43 AM
Quote from: ~*StArSuRfEr*~ on May  5, 2003, 09:59:17 AM
*Yawn* im tired. neways, bush is a rude word for a donkey which i wont say here. As ron (from the book) would say He's a bloody idiot!!!! GGGGRRRRRRRRR.....
is not
Title: Re:War
Post by: Kiara Johnson on May 7, 2003, 07:34:32 PM
I must strongly agree with TLS.  He is not!   ;)
Title: Re:War
Post by: Twisted Lemon Sher on May 10, 2003, 04:13:15 AM
If you in this sitsuation What would you do Just let your people die and say oh well no biggy.  He is our president.  Not saying you have to like him or anything but he is not an idiot.  I may not agree with some of his choices but oh wheel it's not my desision of going to war or not




   
              HE IS NOT AN IDIOT
Title: Re:War
Post by: Kiara Johnson on May 10, 2003, 12:27:08 PM
you are vvery correct  *Gives Twisted a big huggle*
Title: Re:War
Post by: Twisted Lemon Sher on May 11, 2003, 10:36:00 AM
u r the first person that has ever agreed with me before




     
                       THANKS
Title: Re:War
Post by: Kiara Johnson on May 12, 2003, 02:22:55 AM
WELCOME

Title: Re:War
Post by: brian on May 15, 2003, 06:53:45 AM
I heared that GWB said that he was commited to an asylum, but i think that is just a rumor from someone who hates him.
Title: Re:War
Post by: Kiara Johnson on May 15, 2003, 07:54:48 AM
I am most sure it is on;y a rumor.  
Title: Re:War
Post by: brian on May 19, 2003, 03:15:21 AM
Yeah, if he was, then he wouldn't be president at the moment.
Title: Re:War
Post by: Twisted Lemon Sher on May 19, 2003, 10:07:22 AM
He never really daclared war.  I just heard that ppl r saying we just went over and fought
Title: Re:War
Post by: Kiara Johnson on May 19, 2003, 03:00:17 PM
No, he did, I watched him do it on tv.  He also warned the dummy that he was comming.
Title: Re:War
Post by: Twisted Lemon Sher on June 1, 2003, 09:48:45 AM
not exactily
he did it in words he said he had so many hours to get out!
or he was fighting but it was nerver declared on paper
Title: Re:War
Post by: Kiara Johnson on June 1, 2003, 03:43:08 PM
What ever the point is that Bush did tell him he was comming and gave him several chances to get out.  I still thing We should have Killed the Stupid man the last time we were over there.  
Title: Re:War
Post by: brian on June 2, 2003, 01:24:33 AM
pollitics...
Title: Re:War
Post by: Kiara Johnson on June 2, 2003, 03:19:56 AM
Ya!  If were left up to the majority of the population, The @!!@**  would have been dead a long time ago.
Title: Re:War
Post by: brian on June 2, 2003, 03:26:30 AM
You mean saddam right? He's a Crazy Mother F~~~~~ who's a son of a B~~~~! I made him eat S~~~~, and then I kicked his @$$!!!
Title: Re:War
Post by: Kiara Johnson on June 2, 2003, 04:12:37 AM
Yes, it is he of whom I speek.  *Conjures up vitual Saddam and burns him alive.  smiles at his screams of pain*
Title: Re:War
Post by: Twisted Lemon Sher on June 2, 2003, 05:19:12 AM
him and also that F-en binnlaudan
Title: Re:War
Post by: Kiara Johnson on June 2, 2003, 05:56:38 AM
*Conjures up another figure of Bin stupiden and does same to him*
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Post by: brian on June 2, 2003, 06:14:57 AM
Throws pics of him into his own fire
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Post by: Lily_Evans on June 2, 2003, 06:51:00 AM
*Conjures up a big picture of him and spits on it*
Title: Re:War
Post by: Kiara Johnson on June 2, 2003, 07:28:25 AM
Smiles at all the killing in this room.
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Post by: Twisted Lemon Sher on June 2, 2003, 10:00:18 AM
lol... i have a target of him and of course i shoot it
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Post by: Kiara Johnson on June 2, 2003, 11:29:04 AM
With a gun!?  I use crossbow.  They are way fun.
Title: Re:War
Post by: MrsRadcliffe0480 on June 3, 2003, 08:35:02 AM
Osama Bin Laden just needs to go jump off a bridge 'cuz no one wants him here. So does Saddam Hussein and all of his children. They all suck.
Title: Re:War
Post by: Kiara Johnson on June 3, 2003, 08:36:59 AM
You are correct.
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Post by: brian on June 4, 2003, 05:35:11 AM
You have a gun? you have a crossbow?
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Post by: Kiara Johnson on June 4, 2003, 07:57:46 AM
Have you never tried one or the other begore?  They are fun to shoot.  Moste;y, though, I like crossbow.
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Post by: brian on June 5, 2003, 03:03:24 AM
I use airsoft guns
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Post by: Kiara Johnson on June 5, 2003, 09:42:01 AM
Have you ever gone paint-balling?  Weee fun.
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Post by: Twisted Lemon Sher on June 6, 2003, 02:25:54 AM
i love guns ;D cannot shoot crossbow although i have i can't
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Post by: Kiara Johnson on June 6, 2003, 11:17:06 AM
is fun to do
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Post by: Lily_Evans on June 8, 2003, 09:38:38 AM
hehe
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Post by: Kiara Johnson on June 8, 2003, 03:31:33 PM
 :) 8)
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Post by: Lily_Evans on June 8, 2003, 09:02:24 PM
 :purpleelephant:
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Post by: Twisted Lemon Sher on July 2, 2003, 11:05:45 AM
 :D ;) :) ;D
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Post by: Kiara Johnson on July 2, 2003, 04:30:11 PM
:devil:
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Post by: Twisted Lemon Sher on July 4, 2003, 03:10:01 PM
 :)
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Post by: _Lavender_ on July 4, 2003, 03:19:32 PM
:sunny:
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Post by: Twisted Lemon Sher on July 5, 2003, 01:53:32 AM
 :)
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Post by: Granger Girl on July 5, 2003, 03:43:38 AM
 >:(
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Post by: Kiara Johnson on July 5, 2003, 06:33:36 AM
:snake:
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Post by: ~*Emma*~ on August 1, 2003, 01:29:03 AM
 :D
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Post by: AcId_BrOoZ on August 1, 2003, 01:32:43 AM
(http://images.neopets.com/template_images/kougra_baby_tail.gif)
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Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on August 1, 2003, 02:01:20 AM
Lol someone likes neopets :D
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Post by: AcId_BrOoZ on August 1, 2003, 04:20:31 AM
naah, not really...
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Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on August 1, 2003, 10:21:12 AM
Really?
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Post by: ~*Emma*~ on August 1, 2003, 11:14:57 AM
hey whats a global moderator
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Post by: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on August 1, 2003, 11:40:23 AM
Actually, I'm not quite sure.
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Post by: ~*Emma*~ on August 1, 2003, 11:57:56 AM
ur name comes up blue im so jelouse
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Post by: No Limits on August 17, 2003, 09:38:58 AM
i'm not jealous what is there to be jealous about anyway
Title: Re:War
Post by: _Lavender_ on September 1, 2003, 01:34:17 PM
Quote from: .:~*Shuiliya*~:. on March 19, 2003, 05:54:30 AM
Whom, exactly, is we?  I know that US is at war with Iraq.  But that's it.. so far at least.  President Bush is a stupid blankity blank for declaring war.  Gr, I'm so freaking mad. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

humm......now that weve been in the war for months, I dont think you really have the right to say that about the President. When you say, thats it you are clearly mistaken my dear. Hundreds of thousands of people have died. This is only a reminder that the world is not perfect, as we see it, but that we do need to help out others when their relitives are being killed in cold blood for Suddam Hussien`s amusement.
Title: Re:War
Post by: Em on December 13, 2003, 11:09:36 PM
BLUE IS MY FAVE COLOR THATS Y I WAS JELOUS
Title: Re:War
Post by: Sabastian on December 15, 2003, 06:49:34 PM
We got Sadam today!!!  Or was it yeturday now.  lol.  Yea for us!
Title: Re:War
Post by: ~ Ella on December 15, 2003, 08:31:39 PM
*Party's around the room*

WOOT WOOT!! He is so0o0o0o B.U.S.T.E.D!!  :P  lolz
Title: Re:War
Post by: Kiara Johnson on December 17, 2003, 01:48:03 AM
heehee, butterbeers for all!!! :redballoon:  PARTY!
Title: Re:War
Post by: Zack on December 23, 2003, 08:00:30 AM
Yes!!
Title: Re:War
Post by: Avril on December 24, 2003, 12:40:26 PM
lol ;D
Title: Re:War
Post by: Avril on December 24, 2003, 12:41:55 PM
Quote from: Kiara_maul on December 17, 2003, 01:48:03 AM
heehee, butterbeers for all!!! :redballoon:  PARTY!
your butterbeers are delicious..hmmmm!LOL
Title: Re:War
Post by: ~ Ella on December 24, 2003, 12:43:44 PM
*Does a cute victory dance around the room, then trips over and bursts into a fit of laughter.*  
Title: Re:War
Post by: Professor_Snape on January 19, 2004, 04:14:29 AM
All About George Bush


1. It appears that the Bush Administration has consistently misled the American public about Iraq , most significantly regarding Saddam Hussein's possession of weapons of mass destruction and his ties to al Queda and Osama bin Laden.
http://www.fair.org/press-releases/beyond-niger.html

2. The Bush Administration's regressive environmental policies have lowered cleanliness standards for our air and water while allowing utility companies (many of whom are Bush campaign contributors) to profit off of the weakened regulations. In 2002, the head of the EPA's Office of Regulatory Enforcement resigned, complaining that the agency was "fighting a White House that seems determined to weaken the rules we are trying to enforce." (CNN, Aug. 22, 2002)
The Bush Record on the Environment for 2003:
http://www.nrdc.org/bushrecord/2003.asp

3. Bush is underfunding education. The President cut $200 million from his own No Child Left Behind Act, eliminating crucial educational programs for lower income children and cutting professional training for more than 20,000 teachers.

Flawed from its very foundation, No Child Left Behind is based on then-Governor Bush's late-'90s "Texas Miracle,"—a program of standardized testing designed to increase performance and reduce dropout rates--now recognized as a scandalous failure.
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0338/schanberg.php

4. The Bush Administration's Patriot Act threatens our constitutional rights and civil liberties. Passed by a post 9/11 Congress, the Patriot act expands the ability of law enforcement to conduct secret searches, and engage various forms of surveillance, including internet monitoring and wiretapping. It gives the FBI access to American citizens' highly personal medical, financial, mental health, and student records without notification or permission, and allows them to investigate individuals without probable cause of a crime. Finally, it permits non-citizens to be jailed based on mere suspicion and held indefinitely in six month increments without meaningful judicial review.
http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cfm?ID=12126&c=207

5. Bush's Tax Cuts only benefit the rich. Bush claimed that his tax cut would "reduce tax rates for everyone who pays income tax." He failed to mention that this "relief" program would put half of the tax cut's dividends into the hands of our nation's wealthiest 5%, while 8.1 million citizens in the bottom half of the income bracket receive approximately $300 a year.
http://www.ctj.org/html/gwbfinal.htm

6. 3.3 million jobs (93,000 in August of 2003 alone) have been lost since Bush took office--more than the last 11 Presidents combined. (Bureau of Labor Statistics, June 2001-August 2003) Meanwhile, huge corporations are paying fewer taxes than ever:
http://www.cbpp.org/10-16-03tax.htm

7. Bush is underfunding homeland security : While energetic in waging war abroad, the Bush administration has been oddly lethargic in fortifying our defenses at home. Domestic security agencies have been neglected. Police and firefighters have been denied essential resources, and muddled public strategy has only spread alarm and confusion.
http://www.ppionline.org/
Title: Re:War
Post by: Professor_Snape on January 19, 2004, 04:16:17 AM
All About George Bush pt. 2

Check out just the most obvious pork salted into the President's $87 billion request for Iraqi military operations and "reconstruction" efforts.

George Bush, for example, thinks Americans should cough up $9 million to establish postal ZIP codes in Iraq. "How has Iraq made it for these thousands of years without Americans helping them develop a ZIP code?" asks South Dakota Democratic Senator Tim Johnson. "It is amazing. ... What a generous thing for this Administration to do for other people on the other side of the planet, on our dime, borrowing money to do it."

Bush has also asked for $100 million for 2,000 trash trucks -- which works out as $50,000 per truck. He wants to spend $400 million on building new jails able to hold 8,000 additional prisoners -- which works out to $50,000 per bed. "I have a lot of constituents in my state of South Dakota who live in homes that don't cost $50,000 per bedroom," Senator Johnson says. Or how about the $30 million we've reportedly set aside to teach Iraqis English as a second language. "Undoubtedly there will be a contract to be 'bid' out, surely to that great educational institution, Halliburton, to provide ESL teachers from the US at wartime salaries," writes Tom Englehardt, editor of the indispensable TomDispatch.com.

Once the Iraqis at the Baghdad Fire Department's largest station learn English, they'll be able to read the English-language "Baghdad Fire Department" T-shirts we've decked their employees in. The BFD seems to be a symbol for our whole approach, by the way: US taxpayers have paid for a repainting of the station, new beds, air conditioners, office equipment, a television and a DVD player, reports ABC Nightly News. So the BFD probably on the surface looks more luxurious than most American fire stations. But ABC reports, that "after doing their best for the cameras, the firefighters told us there were still no replacements for the fire engines and protective gear taken by looters just after the war. 'I'm happy the Americans helped us,' said one of them. 'But if I'm going to fight fires, I'm going to need better clothing than a T-shirt. It's nylon and will burn right off'."

Sorry, did our shock & awe campaign cost you your fire trucks? Here, have a million-dollar T-shirt. And smile for the nice Americans back home.

The Bush Administration request also includes $164 million "to improve the curriculum for training Iraq's new army", Associated Press reports. Not "to improve the new Army," simply to improve "the curriculum" for it. It includes $4 million to establish telephone area codes and a 911-emergency response number. It includes $100 million to hide the families of 100 Iraqis in the witness protection program, $19 million for post office Wi-Fi, $50 million for traffic cops. It includes $150 million "to begin work on a $500 million to $700 million children's hospital with all the latest technology." (Because there's no shortage of $700 million children's hospitals in America, right?)

The request also includes nearly a billion dollars to import oil into Iraq, the country with the world's second-largest oil reserves. No wonder Bush couldn't find oil in Texas.
Title: Re:War
Post by: Professor_Snape on January 19, 2004, 04:16:58 AM
All About George Bush pt. 3

The Big Lie Of Jessica Lynch
A $1 Mil Book Deal, Zero Memory Of Any "Rescue" And The Worst Book You'll Read This Year

by Mark Morford

Hey, remember that dramatic CNN footage of that big statue of Saddam Hussein being toppled by U.S. forces in that Baghdad square a few months back, during the "war"? Remember how powerfully symbolic it was supposed to be?
Remember, later, seeing the wide-angle shot on the Internet, the one of all the U.S. tanks surrounding the square and the whole bogus setup of how they staged the event, complete with a big crane and some strong cable and strategically positioned "citizens" cheering their "liberation" as the statue fell, as just off camera, a handful of genuine Iraqis loitered nearby, looking confused and bored?

Remember how you felt then? Like this little black worm had bored into your skin and was crawling around in your small intestine and you had the perpetual urge to go off into the corner and eat pie and slam double scotches and scream at the state of BushCo's nation?

The Jessica Lynch story is just like that, only much, much worse.

These are the things that make you wince and sigh. These are the things that put it all in perspective, make you realize what the Pentagon and the military hawks really value.

These are the things that make you realize, goddammit, here I am working every day and struggling to make ends meet in a BushCo-gutted economy and all I really needed to do all along to make a million bucks is stage some sort of bogus wartime heroics and sell it to a war-numbed American populace for $24.95 in hardback, and, boom, Range Rover City.

Jessica Lynch. You know the one. The sweet, American-pie 19-year-old soldier and kindergarten-teacher wanna-be whose army squad took a wrong turn in Iraq and was, apparently, ambushed.

And some of her comrades were killed and she was taken prisoner, full of stab wounds and bullet holes, and she was whisked off to a ragged Iraqi hospital and held for eight days by vicious Iraqi guards and ostensibly abused, and later supposedly "rescued" in the most daring and macho made-for-TV moment of the war by elite teams of hunky U.S. Army Rangers and U.S. Navy SEALs. Wow.

Except that it never really happened that way. Except that Lynch herself doesn't remember a single thing and all the nurses and doctors and eyewitnesses on the scene say the Iraqi fedayeen guards had fled the day before the "rescue," and there was no danger whatsoever, no resistance of any kind, the U.S. forces could just walk right in, and they knew it.

And the hospital doors were wide open, and the nurses and doctors had gone out of their way to provide decent care for our precious Jessica, considering the circumstances, and doctors even tried to return Lynch to U.S. forces themselves.

And despite U.S. claims, Lynch had no knife wounds or bullet holes at all, just a few broken bones, and the dramatic and violent "rescue" was really just inane and silly and entirely faked and yet America bought it, hook, line and Rumsfeld, because it was on TV.

And now, here we are. Jessica and disgraced N.Y. Times reporter Rick "Oh my God do I need a gig" Bragg just inked a $1 million book deal to tell her nonstory, titled "I'm a Soldier Too: The Jessica Lynch Story," not "Oh My God You Are Such a Sucker for Buying This Book I Mean Wow."

Because this is how we fabricate our history. This is how we spin our patriotism, how we bake our jingoistic cake, the Lynch tale the most apt and definitive myth of the war so far.

Because Jessica's story, much like WMDs and Saddam's nukes and biotoxins and Orange Alerts and our imminently prosperous economy and Jenna Bush's ostensible prowess with a beer bong, does not rely on truths. We do not rely on first-hand reports. We do not rely on anything so piffling and small and dangerous as honesty.

We rely, simply, on PR. We believe the TV images of the bogus "rescue" at the expense of common sense because we are a nation drunk on the idea that the U.S. can do no wrong and TV would never lie.

And goddammit if Hannity and Rush and O'Reilly say it happened like that, it must be true, and d**n you America-hating libs for daring to question the integrity of our armed forces when they are out there right now protecting us from, uh, what was it again? Higher gas prices? Israel's scorn? thingy Cheney's pallid sneer? Something like that.

Look, there is no war without spin. There is no war without outright lying to the populace, without trying to coerce a wary nation into supporting our unprovoked savagery by way of Hollywood-style set pieces performed specifically to deflect attention from the brutality and the decapitated children and the still-dying U.S. soldiers and the burning bodies by the side of the road.

This is nothing shocking. This is nothing even remotely unusual or uncommon. The fabric of war consists not of gallant battles fought by hardy soldiers for some noble collective good yay yay go team, but of manufactured tales of valiant brotherhood and purebred heroism designed to make the vile pill slightly less bitter.

War is, of course, vicious and primitive and disgustingly violent and not the slightest bit gallant, and America has rarely been more thuggish in its short history than when we annihilated Afghanistan and Iraq lo these past few years, the world's greatest bloated superpower hammering down on two nearly defenseless, piss-poor nations in the name of, well, petrochemical rights and strategic political positioning. It's not a war, it's a gang beating. Uncle Sam wants you.

And, hence, we need the sugar. We desperately need the sweet, teary-eyed images of flags and salutes and stunning "rescues" to make it all go down smoothly, to suppress the collective recoil, the national gag reflex. After all, who wants to see burning babies and crying mothers and hot screaming death on prime time? Show me Old Glory waving in slo-mo! Ahh, that's better.

We need, in short, pretty 19-year-old memory-impaired soldier girls being rescued by manly SEALs wearing b###hin' night-vision goggles and yelling "Go! Go! Go!" with lots of explosions and helicopters and maybe a cameo by Bruce Willis looking squinty and tough, with the Pentagon cameras rolling and everyone's adrenaline pumping like at a horse race, except for maybe the baffled Iraqi hospital personnel who were calmly taking care of Ms. Lynch when the U.S. storm troopers swooped in and knocked them down.

Of course, this isn't about Jessica herself at all. She has served her country bravely and is probably very sweet and at least partially articulate and is just in it for the quick wad of cash, and what the hell she doesn't remember a d**n thing about the rescue anyway, which makes her the perfect one to write a whole book about it, with Bragg along to, ahem, "fill in the blanks." Ain't that America.

And we can just imagine how the Pentagon brass doubtlessly winked at Jessie and said hey sweetie, you go girl, take the book deal, and the movie deal, and the commemorative plates by the Franklin Mint, it would be good for the country if you go along with the ruse, there there now, that's a good little soldier.

Jessica Lynch is but a puppet, a toy, a convenient TV-ready canvass onto which we can project our impotent myths of patriotism and war, spit forth by the BushCo military machine to ease America's pain, to assuage that increasingly nagging fear that we have committed this horrible thing, this irreversible atrocity.

In short, Jessica's myth helps numb the idea that we have removed a pip-squeak, nonthreatening tyrant from power and left behind a reeking miasma of violence and bloodshed and thousands of dead citizens, more rabid anti-U.S. sentiment and mistrust and global instability than Saddam (or Osama) could've ever dreamed.

And little Ms. Lynch, she is America's new doll. She is our little G.I. Jessica, all safe and clean in her homecoming fatigues, her imaginary story ready to grace the nightstands of the happily gullible across America.

Because really, why bother with all that icky messy nonfiction, all that violent unsavory fact, when straight fiction is so much more, you know, patriotic?

from SF Chronicle 9/5/03


More Recommended Reading:
The Great Unraveling: Losing Our Way in the New Century, by Paul Krugman

Dude, Where's My Country?, by Michael Moore

Lies (And the Lying Liars Who Tell Them): A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right, by Al Franken

The Bush Dyslexicon: Observations on a National Disorder, by Mark Crispin Miller

Bushwhacked: Life in George W. Bush's America, by Molly Ivins

Bush's Brain: How Karl Rove Made George W. Bush Presidential, by James Moore

The Lies of George W. Bush: Mastering the Politics of Deception, by David Corn

Weapons of Mass Deception: The Uses of Propaganda in Bush's War on Iraq, by Sheldon Rampton, John C. Stauben

Check this out, it flippin hilarius: http://www.indian.cl/picjokes/84.htm
Title: Re:War
Post by: Professor_Snape on January 19, 2004, 04:18:02 AM
All About George Bush pt. 3

Here, for your own reading pleasure, Bush in Action:

"We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur."
- Governor George W. Bush

"For NASA, space is still a high priority."
- Governor George W. Bush

"Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our children."
- Governor George W. Bush

"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."
- Governor George W. Bush

"It's time for the human race to enter the solar system."
- Governor George W. Bush

"We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe."
- Governor George W. Bush

"Public speaking is very easy."
- Governor George W. Bush

"A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls."
- Governor George W. Bush

"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."
- Governor George W. Bush

"The future will be better tomorrow."
- Governor George W. Bush

"We're going to have the best educated American people in the world."
- Governor George W. Bush

"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made."
- Governor George W. Bush

"The vast majority of our imports come from outside the country."
- George W. Bush

"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."
- George W. Bush

"One word sums up probably the responsibility of any Governor, and that one word is 'to be prepared'."
- Governor George W. Bush


Enjyo, and print and trade with your friends.

Professor Snape

PS: Go to:  www.google.com type in: miserable failure
Then click the "I'm feeling lucky button" to the right of the google search button.
Muwahaha.
Title: Re:War
Post by: _Lavender_ on January 19, 2004, 04:19:16 AM
KOOL
Title: Re:War
Post by: Professor_Snape on January 19, 2004, 04:25:27 AM
Now that I've made my peace on the topic, I feel this was the wrong place to open the topic, considering this is a place for Harry Potter and not politics. But, since the topic was brought up,  I had to speak my mind, I know my views and beliefs will not be agreed upon by the majority but I will continue to stick with what I have said. Now, let's get back to Potter.
Title: Re:War
Post by: Em on January 27, 2004, 06:49:01 AM
Hey that was my topic  :(.  No I really don't care.  
Title: Re:War
Post by: googl on June 3, 2004, 01:01:33 AM
First of all my sympathies to those people who have relatives in Iraq. The war was unjustified and I agree with you all.

www.google.com

P.S I am very sorry if this caused offence to anyone and please accept my humblest apologies.  If I have offended you leave a post on this website and I will send you a written apology (message). In this I will explain my actions

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Title: Re:War
Post by: Fawkes on June 3, 2004, 10:38:00 AM
I've got a friend from Iraq her cousin was killed by the American soliders! :o :bigcry:
Title: Re:War
Post by: Avril on June 3, 2004, 04:22:56 PM
me too,i have an iraqian friend who lives in here....her father was a soilder and he've got killed :'(:bigcry:
Title: Re:War
Post by: Avril on June 3, 2004, 04:27:46 PM
Quote from: emmawatsongirl on January 27, 2004, 06:49:01 AM
Hey that was my topic  :(.  No I really don't care.  
srry...but i guess it wasn't u're topic,it was emma.G's topic ;D
Title: Re:War
Post by: Em on June 13, 2004, 09:43:32 AM
technically mine ;D