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Snape?!

Started by ChoChangHP118, May 9, 2007, 07:05:28 AM

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ChoChangHP118

i have been having a discusion/argument with my annoying friend:

IS SNAPE GOOD OR BAD!

so i was wondering if people could tell me there opnion and why!

thanks!
"You beleive that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that-and shudder."

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goblet_fulla_fire

Haven't you read what happened at the end of HBP? Surely that event speaks for itself.

ChoChangHP118

ya...but there's this book that i read that said snape still could be good......it said he could have just killed dumbledore cuz it was just there plan!
"You beleive that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that-and shudder."

                      -James 2:19

heyyy. greeeeeeat post in the court one!! -Ginny (A Classic just complimented me!)

0612

Quote from: goblet_fulla_fire on May  9, 2007, 07:10:49 AM
Haven't you read what happened at the end of HBP? Surely that event speaks for itself.

Nope nope... That's not enough to draw a conclusion... Whatever Snape did, JK can still turn the tables 180º... So no, don't draw any conclusions yet.

ChoChangHP118

thank you! that's what i tried to explain!
"You beleive that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that-and shudder."

                      -James 2:19

heyyy. greeeeeeat post in the court one!! -Ginny (A Classic just complimented me!)

goblet_fulla_fire

Quote from: 0612 on May  9, 2007, 02:11:16 PM
Quote from: goblet_fulla_fire on May  9, 2007, 07:10:49 AM
Haven't you read what happened at the end of HBP? Surely that event speaks for itself.

Nope nope... That's not enough to draw a conclusion... Whatever Snape did, JK can still turn the tables 180º... So no, don't draw any conclusions yet.
Let's not forget that Snape told Voldemort of the prophecy. Unless Trewlawney, Dumbledore, or the barman is a death eater.
Snape also made the Unbreakable Vow saying he would help Malfoy.
If Snape killed Dumbledore to convince the Death Eaters, I don't think he would have needed to since he is a master at Occlumency.

But then again, it is possible that Snape told Voldemort in order for him to establish Harry as his equal.
Snape killed Dumbledore to keep his cover.
Snape could read that Malfoy is not a bad person and he could possibly help Harry in the future, so he killed Dumbledore to keep Malfoy's cover too.

Even so, I still think Snape is bad. I am betting that Snape will be able to convince Harry that he is good, before stabbing him in the back later in the book. So that's my theory.

Shara2007

Oh well I think that snape would be evil.
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ChoChangHP118

Quote from: goblet_fulla_fire on May 15, 2007, 07:14:53 AM
Quote from: 0612 on May  9, 2007, 02:11:16 PM
Quote from: goblet_fulla_fire on May  9, 2007, 07:10:49 AM

Nope nope... That's not enough to draw a conclusion... Whatever Snape did, JK can still turn the tables 180º... So no, don't draw any conclusions yet.

Snape made the Unbreakable Vow saying he would help Malfoy.
If Snape killed Dumbledore to convince the Death Eaters, I don't think he would have needed to since he is a master at Occlumency.

Snape told Voldemort in order for him to establish Harry as his equal.
Snape killed Dumbledore to keep his cover.
Snape could read that Malfoy is not a bad person and he could possibly help Harry in the future, so he killed Dumbledore to keep Malfoy's cover too.

he is good, So that's my theory.



i like it that way!
"You beleive that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that-and shudder."

                      -James 2:19

heyyy. greeeeeeat post in the court one!! -Ginny (A Classic just complimented me!)

uNoPoh

I've just read the whole series a third time to be up to date for the final book and to practise a little english.

I really don't know if Snape is good or bad, but I'm quite sure he killed Dumbledore on his request.
Why?
The character Dumbledore is by no means afraid to die. I can't imagine him begging for his live. Also on top of the tower with a buch of Death Eaters he showed no sign of fear. Not before the Death Eaters were pressuring Malfoy to kill him and Snape appeared he began to plead.

To me it is more logical, that Dumbledore knew that he would die and he was pleading Snape to do the job, so Malfoy would be save.

But still it is possible that  Snape acted on Dumbledores orders and is on Voldemorts side
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and it has come to my attention that you are abusing your privileges!

harrypotterfan:)

We just have to see the 7th book until we can judge Snape.....
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0612

That are many theories that are plausible, including yours, uNoPoh, but then, we'd never be sure which is correct until we read the book. I do believe, though, that someone should have hit the correct one.

shreya

#11
Quote from: ChoChangHP118 on May  9, 2007, 07:05:28 AM
i have been having a discusion/argument with my annoying friend:

IS SNAPE GOOD OR BAD!

so i was wondering if people could tell me there opnion and why!

thanks!

these geek frends of mine told me that dumbledore and snape had a deal  with each other
dumbledore himself told snape to kill him,these guys think they had a plan

though i have the e-book of the deathly hallows i don no if its fake or not but ya snape has a negetive role in that , hes on the dark side.............with tom marvolo riddle

ronweazley122

ha ha.....we all know who the leader of the death eaters is, his name wasn't necessary, anyway, does everyone remember that whole "unbreakable vow"he made with narcissa??thats the only thing that makes me believe that he's not evil.
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Ginny Weasly

As much as I'd love for Snape to crawl into a ditch and die, I think it's entierly possible that he only killed Dumbeldore because he told him about the Unbreakable Vow and Dumbledore told him to.

I really, really, REALLY don't like Snape. But I think he might be on the good side by choice, and truly felt bad about everything and only killed Dumbledore because Dumbledore himself ordered him to.

Remember how Dumbledore told Harry that if he was going to help, he had to follow all of Dumbledores orders to the T? Maybe it's somewhat the same with Snape.
My motivation
An oath I've sworn to defend


My dedication
To all that I've sworn to protect
I carry out my orders
With not a regret

ronweazley122

yes...he wanted him to keep his cover at all costs...of course, now I'm curious, what happens if you break an unbreakable vow,if its physically possible??I hope j.k. mentions that...
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